Inspired by Mad M2000's amazing post today, and by Mosan's blog since... well, since Day 1 actually, I'm curious about the following:
All you guys out there who enjoy a good drink (or 10)... Do your fathers drink? If they do, do you ever drink with them or do you continue the standard hypocrisy of not drinking in front of them out of "respect"?
I would understand if your fathers were strict conservatives or at least non-drinkers, but what's the harm in bonding with your dad over a cold beer or a bottle of wine, whether here on the weekends or if/when you're traveling with him?
Ladies, please feel free to join in.
Sah el lsanik
ReplyDeleteI guess not ... but the subject here is the relationship with parents who indulge in the same "vices". Do girls smoke in front of their smoking mothers?
ReplyDeleteEven if the mother is a chain smoker? That's exactly my point.
ReplyDeleteWould the mother actually be offended, or do the girls just assume she will be?
Some parents want to know
ReplyDeletesome don't!
A drinker bonds with the bartender, so if the son has skills the Dad will of course love him for that....as I showed in the silly toon
ReplyDeleteOther than that there is No real bonding here, like the kind we see on the Sopranos for example or any family show on TV
Dads will stay dads even after a full bottle of wine ..sons will act like sons and drink behind thier fathers backs.
on the other hand...a drinking uncle is something else...
i must confess that i have been gifted with a very cool dad.he knows that i drink and doesnt mind my shenanigans that much. on my 18 birthday he gave me bottle of Cuervo in kuwait. he also drank it with me and a few close friends and his japanese partner while fishing. dad: domu arigoto! hig! *bowing my head*
ReplyDeleteI smoke in front of my smoking mom, and drink in front of both my parents... i dont smoke in front of my dad coz it makes me uncomfortable... he makes everyone who smokes uncomfy... so imagine his own daughter.
ReplyDeleteRam.. you are Lebanese Christian and therefore exempt from the hypocrisies that fester in most Muslim societies. Maybe you have other issues that we don't know about? ;-P
ReplyDeleteYour dad is anti-smoking not because it's عيب but because it's bad for your health and I totally respect him for it since I don't smoke.
For the record, my dad (RIP) didn't have a problem with my drinking as long as it was in moderation, which thankfully it still is. And I am glad that I managed to bond over a few beers with him as father and ADULT son before he passed away. He was also proud that I was able to order a decent bottle of wine - IN FRENCH - at a fancy French restaurant in London. That was the last night I saw him too, because I went to college in DC the day after that dinner, and a week later he was gone. I'll never forget the smile on his face as I struggled with the snobby waiter...
ReplyDeletezaydoun: its those moments that you always remember.
ReplyDeletePops is as open-minded as they come, but I'm not about to "kick it" with him, anytime soon. Smoking, or worse drinking in front of my father! Damn, I can't even imagine that. Call it hypocrisy if you wish, but I respect my father and mother too much and won't EVER smoke or drink in front of them. Not that they would let me haha but ya3ny even IF they were cool with it, I wouldn't be.
ReplyDeleteJust for the record though, only the males smoke in the family, and nobody else drinks in the family and nobody knows that I drink or smoke. I'm the bad seed in the family haha bas recently my brothers 6a7ow 3alay while I was smoking :P
Again.. why is it considered LACK OF RESPECT?!
ReplyDeleteI totally respect your views, but the subject is about people who do NOT drink in front of their DRINKING parents, that's all
ReplyDeleteIt's not about right vs wrong, Arab vs European, Muslim vs Infidel, 7aram vs 7alal...
Open Minded: being open to new ideas and point of views and not limiting yourself to preset sociocultural norms.
ReplyDeletenow with that in mind (pun intended) being open minded doest mean that you will change yourself into something else. if you want to pray and then drink, that is your business and yours alone. if i drink, then fine, so be it for i do and i have no guilt about it, and as i type this i can see one icecube in my scotch has melted. have i prayed? no, then again that is my perogative and mine alone. you are welcome to suggest, but beware of impossing your opinion for you will find me ontop of you shoving a Quran down your throat just as you tried to do back there only i will use real paper. with all that said and done, do hope you enjoy your last days of non-ramadamadingding and happy seasonal greetings to all of you who fast and what have you not, and to those like me, just bear with it..just think of all the kanafah with mint tea you will have at the end of the day.
Dearest Zaydoun & Others who may have been offended by my post.
ReplyDeleteWhen I posted my comment, not all the posts were visible so not only was I not able to see things from everyone else's point of view (I lack the ability to naturally do so) but also my post came directly after Zaydoun's post which made it sound like I was personally attacking him or something which I was not. So anyone that got offended by my post, please accept my apology 'cuz it was purely unintentional.
In answer to your answer Zaydoun - It is considered as lack of respect mainly because it was never practiced before... I guess.
Mat3awadt ada'7in ow ashrab jidaam ahaly. For one, it'll confirm what my mother thinks of me. Two, it'll break my father's heart that his "little princess" is a "masochistic drunkard with suicidal tendencies".
ya3ny if my older brother who smokes NEVER ever smoked in front of pops, I don't think it's going to be okay when I do it.
Plus if I drink in front of him it's like look, I'm disobeying your religion and I'm doing it in front of you, what are you going to do about it?
I guess it all boils down to who your parents are and what their tolerance level is. Some parents are cool with their kids smoking and drinking. Others only allow it as long as it's in front of them. Yet others allow only one of either, and even others allow neither. Depends.
Most drinkers do not readily admit in public that they drink, so there's no way they will be wooed as voters.
ReplyDeleteAs for the the proposal, it's just hearsay